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Ask the lab for dental referral- ?



Question:

Ask the lab guy for referral to the dentist?

No, I don't think so. I'm against this, except as a very last resort.

Dentistry is a relationship between doctor and patient. As with all other relationships, it involves quite a bit of "trust."


Answer:

When you go to your supermarket you'll pay extra to pick through the melons and tomatos to pick out exactly what you want. At the end of the week, there's some stuff that's much too soft to sell. So the higher price is necessary to offset the spoilage.

Produce Junction by way of contrast, sells produce quite reasonably. If you want the tomatos, you tell them how many bags you want. They hand you the bags. When you get home if the tomatos are too soft, then you'll remember that for next time.

But make no mistake. Produce sellers are all competing against one another for the same customers but using some very different strategies.

Dental laboratories come in 3 grades: Superb, excellent and good. In dentistry, there's an increment built in to cover some remakes, which come out of all 3 laboratories. Sometimes the denture does not fit exactly as needed or the crown needs to be recast. This is why prosthetics costs additional. But, the lower the cost, the more that you must push through the pipeline.

I submit that you local guys do not even see our best work! We send that to the more qualified laboratories. Laboratories where there is a higher degree of excellence.

As with so many things, you kind of get what you pay for. Sometimes we need a superb lab (big case, maximum aesthetics), other times we need an excellent or just a good laboratory. This depends on what we are doing, and what results we expect to obtain. Kind of like buying tomatos to make some spaghetti sauce, and buying other tomatos for salad!

As example, Glidewell Laboratory charges the dentist $229. for a Vitallium cast mandibular or maxillary partial - Kenson teeth, acrylic saddles. Pennsylvania Medical Assistance pays the dentist $217. for the same job. Guess which laboratory is doing this case?

In the laboratory business, the "Big Boys" do superb work but it is also expensive work. The small lab owner does what he can do to "compete" against the big boys. The big boys including Glidewell, MicroDental Laboratories, Associated Laboratories, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on marketing and advertising. They consistently deliver a quality product.

The small local laboratory owner's stock in trade is service. The laboratory owner bends over backwards to get and support the dentist/customer's business, which is a good thing. They reciprocate by referring patients back to their own doctor/customers. This is more about looking out for the laboratory's own interests rather than referring to "the most qualified guy" in town. Besides, dentistry is a "people" business. You, the laboratory owner may not be in a position to evaluate the most important part of a dentist's skills.

You also might find that the most talented dentists will not even send any cases to your laboratory at all. In fact, the "big boys" probably get more work from those excellent dentists.

Furthermore, while you are evaluating our "manual dexterity skills" we are doing exactly the same thing with your "manual dexterity skills" too. Many of the small laboratory owners save themselves a few dollars by hiring poorly trained and uncaring technicians who are paid their wages through piecework. They quite often will not even follow our written instructions!

Its kind of well known in the dental community that its almost impossible to get a properly-surveyed Vitallium casting. Your first case or two is usually quite excellent; after that -who knows? Too many laboratories are always jumping after the first-time doctors. Too many laboratories looking for more business.

But in our case, our evaluation of you is a real distinction based upon your product, not some subjective one, based upon the quality of our impression. I doubt that you are in a position to evaluate how kindly that dentist has treated the periodontium while preparing that bridge! This most certainly will affect the life of the bridge just as surely as how parallel the abutments might be.

My personal view is that this is yet another case of the "self-styled experts" beating up on the doctors! I find your statement "manual dexterity is not a pre-requisite for dental school" to be inaccurate. Absolutely inaccurate! In fact, dentist-bashing is certainly more in vogue than laboratory- bashing is. Perhaps this is what I'm hearing. But that's another post entirely!

And please remember that this is only a small part of our "dental business."

So you, the laboratory owner are not a "disinterested party" offering an opinion as to which dentist knows how to "cut the best crown prep in town." In fact, supporting your customers is a key element of your business. Who could doubt that the lab guy picking up the phone and offering this bit of friendly "referral information" is any more reliable than a similar referral from a friend?

At least with the friend, your new dentist might extend extra consideration to you and to that friend too, out of respect for the referral. If I, the dentist disappoint you the new patient, I am risking the relationship with two people, and possibly more. And, I'll do everything possible to prevent that.

Besides, when our patients refer us their friends, this is indeed a nice complement. When a laboratory refers me a patient its usually called "payback" time!

If someone wants a specific referral (who is the best dentist for a crown, etc.) that is not my area of dentistry, I am honest. I tell them I have no experience working witht the doctor in that area.

If someone wants a referral to an orthodontist, I always advise them to ask their general dentist for a referral...I believe that is an important relationship and it should be respected. I never refer directly to an orthodontist.

I believe my referrals are honest, objective and good.

Who do you want a person to ask? A dental school? They will be biased toward their own graduates and instructors. The dental association? They will be biased toward their members. A referral company? They will be biased toward their members. A neighbor? What experience or education makes the average layperson qualified to make a referral?

When I make a referral I take pride to only refer the person to a dentist I would personally recommend based on his abilities and qualification, not his contribution to my pocketbook.


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