Question:
who has done den-mat's lumineers?
I' d like a feedback if u have done some.
any similar product on the market?
Answer:
, they're just porcelain laminate veneers that Den Mat claims can be
made extra thin. I don't see any magic, but then I haven't seen them.
They make the claim that you don't need to reduce the tooth, but they
said that in the early days of laminates anyway.
They work well for under-developed (ie--"peg") laterals...but I'd still put
a small chamfer at the margin or else you get a food catch. They are very
translucent, so shade matching on anterior teeth is very easy as long as
there's no dark tooth structure to block out.
Glidewell makes a similar veneer that they call Vivaneer.
http://glidewell-lab.com/products/fixed_metalfree/vivaneers.html
BTW--the one set of Lumineers that I did came back with a thickness between
.5 and .7 mm measured with a Boley gauge. I'm pretty sure that that 0.3mm
number was created by the marketing guys.
Enhanced translucency wouldn't be an asset if you're trying to mask
stained teeth. I'm sure this could be opaqued, but wouldn't an opaque
thin veneer look dead?
I feel their marketing process is less than sincere. I have yet to see any
of their products test out better than other stuff. It often is just as
good, just not any better.
Have to admit: there are situations where I feel better using Geristore
in a particular mouth than Fuji 9. The "packability" is better, IMO,
probably because it auto cures quicker. I also like the mixing tips and
the L-shaped spout. Easy to use. If I'm using this as a 'final
restoration', I put Seal N Shine over it.
I do not use Den Mat's products either but the cerinate porcelain is
not bad.
It's more abrasive but is much stronger and for lumineers is a good
choice.
These veneers can look pretty good with the right case selection.
Obviously if you prep the teeth, the reslts are not different than any
other system but the whole idea behind lumineers is not to prep. by not
needing to prep the cost to the patient can be considerably lower. For
patients how are just looking for an improvement, I think no prep
veneers are great.
