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Distressing symptoms - bacteria, fungus, tooth?



Question:

I've got a post-nasal drip and frequent feeling of fatigue. 1 year ago I had surgery - septum, concha-bullosa and ethmoid sinus, but since then I still can't get rid of the problem.

My recent CT scan showed nothing wrong. Examination of bacteria present in my nose revealed e.coli, klebsiella oxytoca & pseudomonas - I took Cipro for 12 days and used Gentamycine with inhalator and it helped a lot, but there are some distressing symptoms that I'm still worried about. It usually begins with some very intensive fatigue feeling and more mucus and ends with production of some kind of characteristic mucus - looks like a jelly with some gray stuff in it. After it happens I feel OK again like completely healthy person. And the cycle returns again (usually 1 up to 3 times a day).

My questions are:

1. Are described symptoms a sign of getting better (sinuses clean of some toxic stuff - like killed bacteria or fungi) or does it mean, that my bacterial infection is getting worse (or at least not getting better)? 2. I don't and didn't have any pain typical for sinus or teeth problems, but is it possible that my condition is related to teeth? Is teeth X-ray enough to diagnose this? 3. May it be fungus related? I know it's quite rare and my immune system is OK, but my blood tests showed extreme high IgG antibodies levels for Fusarium and medium for Candida.


Answer:

It's possible that you have an allergic fungal sinusitis, but that creates the conditons for a bacterial sinusitis. I've had some of the same bacteria cultured. You could have an infection in the bone. If it doesn't clear up in a few days I would ask for a bone scan.

Do you mean they literally cultured bacteria from your nostrils, not from your sinus ducts? If they did a nasal swab, that's worthless--the bacteria in your nose can be totally different from those in your sinuses. In fact, healthy people have plenty of "normal flora" in their noses too.

A culture from your sinus ducts that reveals Pseudomonas, however, is important.

Your sinusitis may just be aggravated by allergies. Have you been tested for mold allergy with skin tests by a competent allergist? If you have mold allergy, then it must be treated effectively in order for your sinusitis to clear.

First of all, I disagree with Kathy that AFS is suggested here. AFS has turned into a "default diagnosis" that is seized on whenever a patient can't get rid of his sinusitis--if the sinusitis isn't cleared with antibiotics and surgery, then "it must be" AFS. It shouldn't be. Mayo Clinic, which first invented this AFS theory, has recently backed off on it, they're not claiming it's the root cause of 95% of sinusitis anymore. They have developed tests and examinations for that condition, and without positive results from such tests there's no reason to assume you have AFS.

They are now working on a brand-new theory (mucus biofilms), so Mayo scientists will continue to have fun and be paid.

It's more believable that the infection has long since penetrated your bone--that's where I'm at right now myself.

As to whether it has a dental origin, any competent dentist can X-ray your upper teeth and see if you have any abscesses that are penetrating into the maxillary sinuses. (You can have a tooth abscess without pain symptoms--for a while. Then one fine day, it will suddenly explode with pain. Been there, done that too.)


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